listen on the cipher brief listen on apple podcasts More about our experts Staff Trey Herr Senior Director Cyber Statecraft Initiative Digital Forensic Research Lab Cybersecurity Digital Policy Former fellow Simon Handler Former Nonresident Fellow Cyber Statecraft Initiative Cybersecurity Middle East Staff Emma Schroeder Associate Director Cyber Statecraft Initiative Digital Forensic Research Lab Conflict Cybersecurity Related Experts: Trey Herr, Emma Schroeder, and Simon Handler
